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Ozma Discussion => Ozma Discussion => Topic started by: buttub on April 05, 2006, 07:10:33 PM

Title: The Elected @ The EL Rey
Post by: buttub on April 05, 2006, 07:10:33 PM
The Elected are playing the El Rey on April 22. Dan's not on bass anymore, but Nate's taking over for him. Should be cool..
Title: Re: The Elected @ The EL Rey
Post by: savewhatyouare on April 05, 2006, 11:10:43 PM
i got my ticket.
Title: Re: The Elected @ The EL Rey
Post by: tom on April 07, 2006, 10:15:40 AM
Biggest Star - the only song you will ever need to see live in your entire life.
Title: Re: The Elected @ The EL Rey
Post by: evanismyname on April 14, 2006, 01:24:32 PM
Quote from: Tom Is Dead on April 07, 2006, 10:15:40 AM
Biggest Star - the only song you will ever need to see live in your entire life.

Yeah I'm good with Only in Dreams, actually.
Title: Re: The Elected @ The EL Rey
Post by: k24 on April 14, 2006, 05:14:25 PM
how cliche...
Title: Re: The Elected @ The EL Rey
Post by: savewhatyouare on April 14, 2006, 07:06:27 PM
biggest star > only in dreams
Title: Re: The Elected @ The EL Rey
Post by: I like ozma on April 16, 2006, 01:35:09 PM
< never seen either live
Title: Re: The Elected @ The EL Rey
Post by: savewhatyouare on April 16, 2006, 03:02:30 PM
Quote from: like ozma i do on April 16, 2006, 01:35:09 PM
< never seen either live

seen both live, numerous times.

maybe i'm just favoring with biggest star right now cause it's recent? both are Samuel though
Title: Re: The Elected @ The EL Rey
Post by: tom on April 16, 2006, 07:48:38 PM
Quote from: savewhatyouare on April 16, 2006, 03:02:30 PM
Quote from: like ozma i do on April 16, 2006, 01:35:09 PM
< never seen either live

seen both live, numerous times.

maybe i'm just favoring with biggest star right now cause it's recent? both are Samuel though

Same here, right now biggest star just blows me away. I mean....i've never heard Weezer improvise while playing OID.
Title: Re: The Elected @ The EL Rey
Post by: warren on April 18, 2006, 10:45:08 AM
Quote from: savewhatyouare on April 14, 2006, 07:06:27 PM
biggest star > only in dreams

Title: Re: The Elected @ The EL Rey
Post by: evanismyname on April 25, 2006, 08:12:12 PM
Uhh, it's not about how they are playing it, I was refering to the fact that biggest star is the same chord progression and dynamic song structure as only in dreams, even up to the crescendo build up, placement, song length.
Title: Re: The Elected @ The EL Rey
Post by: savewhatyouare on April 25, 2006, 08:49:01 PM
Quote from: evanismyname on April 25, 2006, 08:12:12 PM
Uhh, it's not about how they are playing it, I was refering to the fact that biggest star is the same chord progression and dynamic song structure as only in dreams, even up to the crescendo build up, placement, song length.

just because it's the same paint brush doesn't mean it's the same painting.

point being- although they have the same structure, it doesn't really mean that they are alike at all, cause, really (besides it's length and structure) they are not very similar.

It's all a matter of preference of course.
Title: Re: The Elected @ The EL Rey
Post by: evanismyname on April 25, 2006, 10:46:58 PM
Quote from: savewhatyouare on April 25, 2006, 08:49:01 PM
Quote from: evanismyname on April 25, 2006, 08:12:12 PM
Uhh, it's not about how they are playing it, I was refering to the fact that biggest star is the same chord progression and dynamic song structure as only in dreams, even up to the crescendo build up, placement, song length.

just because it's the same paint brush doesn't mean it's the same painting.

point being- although they have the same structure, it doesn't really mean that they are alike at all, cause, really (besides it's length and structure) they are not very similar.

It's all a matter of preference of course.

Right, except its also you know, the same chord progression, which when combined with the other like aspects, overshadow the few original elements of the song.
Title: Re: The Elected @ The EL Rey
Post by: nanaki on April 27, 2006, 07:59:40 AM
two words, one name for you guys: yellow ledbetter.   ::)
Title: Re: The Elected @ The EL Rey
Post by: k24 on April 30, 2006, 09:29:49 AM
you can't copyright chord progressions.

plus   I - IV - ii - V progressions are simple, and one of the first things taught in freshmen music theory, and go back to the days of Bach. If you want to think like that, i guess weezer was a few hundred years past being original.
Title: Re: The Elected @ The EL Rey
Post by: savewhatyouare on April 30, 2006, 02:52:39 PM
Quote from: evanismyname on April 25, 2006, 10:46:58 PM
Quote from: savewhatyouare on April 25, 2006, 08:49:01 PM
Quote from: evanismyname on April 25, 2006, 08:12:12 PM
Uhh, it's not about how they are playing it, I was refering to the fact that biggest star is the same chord progression and dynamic song structure as only in dreams, even up to the crescendo build up, placement, song length.

just because it's the same paint brush doesn't mean it's the same painting.

point being- although they have the same structure, it doesn't really mean that they are alike at all, cause, really (besides it's length and structure) they are not very similar.

It's all a matter of preference of course.

Right, except its also you know, the same chord progression, which when combined with the other like aspects, overshadow the few original elements of the song.


yes..but you see...nothing is original anymore.
Title: Re: The Elected @ The EL Rey
Post by: tom on May 02, 2006, 06:12:53 PM
I'm really confused...I was just saying how I think biggest star is way better live, than only in dreams.
Weezer hardly ever goes "off the cuff." Thats what makes biggest star Samuel. And, yeah, what someone else said, if you want to get technical, alot of songs have similar chord progressions.