im not sure if i do share the same opinion with anyone, but the way i see it,
daniel = ozma just like how we see rivers = weezer.
i mean, the moment i hear daniel sang straight flush, i tell myself this is an ozma song, but when i hear ryen in barriers...i don't have that same effect in me.
but, that's just my opinion
Indeed that is just your opinion.
yea thats mostly right. when i heard barriers i was laughing i disliked it so much, i love straight flush, but barriers is laughable. so i equate good ozma with daniel, anyways.
I think Ryen is far more essential to Ozma than you guys are realizing. It's true that he's responsible for a few of my least favorite Ozma tracks, but if you go down through a list of the all time great songs, I think you'd be shocked by how many of them Ryen either wrote or cowrote. Dan's contributions might be equal to or greater than Ryen's (I don't know this for a fact) but if you pull out Ryen, you loose a sensibility that is at the essence of Ozma's sound. I might also wager that Ryen has a better sense for for vocal melodies than Dan does. They've got their stregnths and weaknesses, but if you pull out Ryen, you get Dan solo, and that's not Ozma, at least not in my opinion.
no i agree with that, and Ryen does wail on the geetar, but i dont like him at the forefront, but in collaboration with Dan, they do great things, agreed.
Quote from: Not Jason on September 13, 2006, 08:14:46 AM
It's true that he's responsible for a few of my least favorite Ozma tracks
Out of curiosity, which?
Bad Dogs, mostly. I'd say.
You know I never liked Bad Dogs but lately I've noticed its really a pretty rocking song. Lately its one of the ones I look foward to on Spending Time.
hell yea bad dogs rocks
Quotedaniel = ozma just like how we see rivers = weezer.
Not even close.
Quote from: Rome on September 13, 2006, 06:34:42 PM
Quotedaniel = ozma just like how we see rivers = weezer.
Not even close.
IAWTP
i always thought ryen and dan are a lesser version of paul and john. They both have different styles, and when they are merged, they become something better than if they wrote the song outside of their duality.
Quote from: Not Jason on September 13, 2006, 08:14:46 AM
I think Ryen is far more essential to Ozma than you guys are realizing.Ã, It's true that he's responsible for a few of my least favorite Ozma tracks, but if you go down through a list of the all time great songs, I think you'd be shocked by how many of them Ryen either wrote or cowrote.Ã, Dan's contributions might be equal to or greater than Ryen's (I don't know this for a fact) but if you pull out Ryen, you loose a sensibility that is at the essence of Ozma's sound.Ã, I might also wager that Ryen has a better sense for for vocal melodies than Dan does.Ã, They've got their stregnths and weaknesses, but if you pull out Ryen, you get Dan solo, and that's not Ozma, at least not in my opinion.
Exactly. Thank you.
Quote from: savewhatyouare on September 13, 2006, 08:40:53 PM
i always thought ryen and dan are a lesser version of paul and john. They both have different styles, and when they are merged, they become something better than if they wrote the song outside of their duality.
Haha, lesser in what sense? Tinier penises? Haha.
But yeah, I've always thought that too.
I've always viewed Dan as kind of the Lennon, the seemingly more artsy one.
And Ryen as more of the McCartney, always wanting to play, rock out, do the fun songs.
But together, I agree, they're a helluva lot more Samuel. Harmonies, switching-off's..whatever it might be. Callaboration is key.
Quote from: funwithsponges on September 13, 2006, 04:50:38 PM
Quote from: Not Jason on September 13, 2006, 08:14:46 AM
It's true that he's responsible for a few of my least favorite Ozma tracks
Out of curiosity, which?
"Bad Dogs" is the one that comes immediately to mind. It's not that it's a bad song persay, but I was only ever lukewarm on it. Off of spending time, I was also never a fan of "Your Name", also a ryen track. In all fairness though, I fucking hate "Utsukushii Shibuya", which, though credited to both, seems kind of Dan heavy.
Good examples of Ryen doing well is his collaborative work with dan on "Gameover", which I'm under the impression he did the music from (based on dan's comments on the acoustic version from KUCI)
and yes, I'm currently looking at the liner notes of Spending Time.
i agree with the fact that when they both put the work together, they make good music...
i mean, how often do you listen to an album and enjoyed every single tracks in it? As far as im concern, every track in every ozma album stands out but,
Speaking of good music, when i heard barriers, i dun think the new sound they're approaching could even beat HelloGoodbye.
I personally don't understand the Barriers bashing. Like I said in the other thread, it feels like it's incomplete to me, and it's not perfect (yet), but there are some really awesome parts in that song.
Quote from: Not Jason on September 14, 2006, 12:41:30 AM
I personally don't understand the Barriers bashing.Ã, Like I said in the other thread, it feels like it's incomplete to me, and it's not perfect (yet), but there are some really awesome parts in that song.
It has some very good bits, but I find it dull on the whole. I can't see how it could be greatly improved, but then I'm not a talented musician.
i think i can agree that dan can probably write better songs on his own, but missing either of them, ozma wouldnt be ozma
I like Ryen's singing better than Dan's.
Quote from: Lando_Calrissian on September 14, 2006, 12:47:49 AM
Quote from: Not Jason on September 14, 2006, 12:41:30 AM
I personally don't understand the Barriers bashing.Ã, Like I said in the other thread, it feels like it's incomplete to me, and it's not perfect (yet), but there are some really awesome parts in that song.
It has some very good bits, but I find it dull on the whole. I can't see how it could be greatly improved, but then I'm not a talented musician.
well, think of it this way: why is it dull? for me, it's dull because it doesn't really go anywhere, towards the end it's just a bunch of choruses strung together, and though it's a good chorus, that's always a formula for boring. I think all they need to do is write some more parts too it, like a real bridge to really devide things up in the end, and it would be really good.
I almost wish they'd just wait awhile, and release a whole album before we can bash it, because I feel like we're gonna bash every 'demo' they put up, haha.
Quote from: Fantastic Max on September 15, 2006, 12:47:36 AM
I almost wish they'd just wait awhile, and release a whole album before we can bash it, because I feel like we're gonna bash every 'demo' they put up, haha.
Well, dan said they wanted to get stuff up so they don't lose momentum, and it makes sense.
i like that they are doing it one song at a time. and the songs are good, they just arent good OZMA songs
Quote from: I like ozma. on September 15, 2006, 02:12:40 PM
i like that they are doing it one song at a time. and the songs are good, they just arent good OZMA songs
uhm... who are you to say something like that?
an ozma fan
Quote from: I like ozma. on September 15, 2006, 03:18:39 PM
an ozma fan
cunt's more like it
edit: i misread your post, but you're still a cunt. if you can admit that they're good songs, why not give ozma the credit they're due for writing good new (OZMA) songs? they're the ones who wrote them in the first place. there's a difference between (your definition of) 'good' and (the universal definition of) 'classic' ozma. i'm sure these new ones will become classics in their own right. that's how it was with "spending time" when it came out...Ã, Ã,Â
Quote from: I like ozma. on September 14, 2006, 10:30:02 AM
i think i can agree that dan can probably write better songs on his own, but missing either of them, ozma wouldnt be ozma
no
I think Dan and Ryen are essential to OZMA. They create such a wonderful balance of greatness! I love most of Ryen's songs and most of Dan's songs. I saw Ryen play with The Rentals and he is an Samuel guitar player, not only on an OZMA track. I also enjoy Dan's solo album. They come together to create this great musical collaborative effort we know as OZMA.
Quote from: savewhatyouare on September 13, 2006, 08:40:53 PM
i always thought ryen and dan are a lesser version of paul and john. They both have different styles, and when they are merged, they become something better than if they wrote the song outside of their duality.
Samuel and I have discussed this many times. To me (and Sam), Ozma is Dan and Ryen together. The rest of the band can be left out (even Jose if we're really hard-pressed, sorry). That said, seperate they are both still awesome. So I don't quite agree with you there. Together, though, is like you said. The merging of styles. And I think that's what really makes Ozma great and unique.
Quote from: Kyosho on September 16, 2006, 04:04:10 PM
Quote from: savewhatyouare on September 13, 2006, 08:40:53 PM
i always thought ryen and dan are a lesser version of paul and john. They both have different styles, and when they are merged, they become something better than if they wrote the song outside of their duality.
Samuel and I have discussed this many times. To me (and Sam), Ozma is Dan and Ryen together. The rest of the band can be left out (even Jose if we're really hard-pressed, sorry). That said, seperate they are both still awesome. So I don't quite agree with you there. Together, though, is like you said. The merging of styles. And I think that's what really makes Ozma great and unique.
What, no love for the Immigration Song? Thats in my top 5 Ozma songs. Perhaps top 3.
I'll second the Immigration Song comment, and also, point out that you definitely could not leave out Jose, considering his presence on stage. And then if we consider Jose based on stage presence, everyone else has to be included because they all have their quirks, also.
i feel that jose brings that kind of energy to their studio material too. anyone could play rhythm guitar (almost), but jose's playing is vital to ozma's signature sound. plus, he co-wrote a lot of ozma tunes.
based on Immigration Song, I would love to see Jose write more material for Ozma.
Man, weezer fans sure do provide the most insightful and interesting topics for discussion. :P
I like to think that weezer fans can't discuss anything without comparing it to weezer.
"man, this pizza is good in the same way that pinkerton is good."
"my fantasy football team is so succesful, it is like the blue album."
"man, your farts smell like maladroit."
Quote from: The Other Mike on September 17, 2006, 08:18:05 AM
"man, this pizza is good in the same way that pinkerton is good."
(http://forum.weezer.de/images/smiles/icon_eek.gif)
Quote from: The Other Mike on September 17, 2006, 08:18:05 AM
Man, weezer fans sure do provide the most insightful and interesting topics for discussion.Ã, Ã, :P
I like to think that weezer fans can't discuss anything without comparing it to weezer.
"man, this pizza is good in the same way that pinkerton is good."
"my fantasy football team is so succesful, it is like the blue album."
"man, your farts smell like maladroit."
LOL
Quote from: Not Jason on September 17, 2006, 01:24:05 AM
based on Immigration Song, I would love to see Jose write more material for Ozma.
He wrote Yes Dear's "Alright" which is a pretty darn good song.
And I love how he adds a million chords to walk between others, instead of a few-chord rythm. It's nice.
Quote from: Not Jason on September 17, 2006, 01:24:05 AM
based on Immigration Song, I would love to see Jose write more material for Ozma.
And based on how well-liked Immigration Song is with Ozma fans, it's really quite appauling that he hasn't gotten another chance.
i never liked immigration song.
Quote from: The Other Mike on September 17, 2006, 08:18:05 AM
Man, weezer fans sure do provide the most insightful and interesting topics for discussion.Ã, Ã, :P
I like to think that weezer fans can't discuss anything without comparing it to weezer.
"man, this pizza is good in the same way that pinkerton is good."
"my fantasy football team is so succesful, it is like the blue album."
"man, your farts smell like maladroit."
+1
I mean his voice on that song, the dynamics in structure, and you gotta love the 80s esque harmonized guitar interlude Jose and Ryen pull off together after the first verse. Its kinda like "Not only am I going to rock hard on lead vocals, I am going to rock hard on a dual-lead guitar solo too." And then I found the live 12-27-2002 Glass House version for the first time friday night in the repository. I never knew they played it live. What a great time period too. Anyone else have anymore of this show?
Quote from: I like ozma. on September 18, 2006, 12:38:23 PM
Quote from: The Other Mike on September 17, 2006, 08:18:05 AM
Man, weezer fans sure do provide the most insightful and interesting topics for discussion. :P
I like to think that weezer fans can't discuss anything without comparing it to weezer.
"man, this pizza is good in the same way that pinkerton is good."
"my fantasy football team is so succesful, it is like the blue album."
"man, your farts smell like maladroit."
+1
I wish I was dead.
Its not cool to be gothic, Mike.
Quote from: The Other Mike on September 18, 2006, 04:30:17 PM
Quote from: I like ozma. on September 18, 2006, 12:38:23 PM
Quote from: The Other Mike on September 17, 2006, 08:18:05 AM
Man, weezer fans sure do provide the most insightful and interesting topics for discussion. :P
I like to think that weezer fans can't discuss anything without comparing it to weezer.
"man, this pizza is good in the same way that pinkerton is good."
"my fantasy football team is so succesful, it is like the blue album."
"man, your farts smell like maladroit."
+1
I wish I was dead.
+2
anywayz, i wish ozma would just write good ozma songs instead of writing good songs :D
their not ozma lol
I don't understand what you mean by "good ozma songs." If it's a good song and it's written by Ozma, then it is a good Ozma song. I take your statement mean you'd like them to continue writing the same songs over and over. Why would they want to pidgeon hole themselves like that? People change over the years; they mature, have different experiences, learn more about writing music so of course they're going to sound different, and I don't think that's a bad thing.
And on topic, I don't think Daniel = Ozma. Look at all Dan's other projects. They don't sound like Ozma, but they do sound like Dan. It's a collective effort on all their parts.
Quote from: Marm on September 18, 2006, 08:05:11 PM
I don't understand what you mean by "good ozma songs."Ã, If it's a good song and it's written by Ozma, then it is a good Ozma song.Ã, I take your statement mean you'd like them to continue writing the same songs over and over.Ã, Why would they want to pidgeon hole themselves like that?Ã, People change over the years; they mature, have different experiences, learn more about writing music so of course they're going to sound different, and I don't think that's a bad thing.
And on topic, I don't think Daniel = Ozma.Ã, Look at all Dan's other projects.Ã, They don't sound like Ozma, but they do sound like Dan.Ã, It's a collective effort on all their parts.
is this directed at me?
The first sentence or so. Then I suppose I sort of went off on a tangent.
Quote from: Marm on September 18, 2006, 08:08:38 PM
The first sentence or so.Ã, Then I suppose I sort of went off on a tangent.
oh, i have similar opinions to yours on the first page.
Heh, I've been internetless for months now. I didn't bother to read anything other than the first couple of posts and the last couple.
^_^ what is your avatar from?
Quote from: Rome on September 18, 2006, 12:34:20 AM
Quote from: Not Jason on September 17, 2006, 01:24:05 AM
based on Immigration Song, I would love to see Jose write more material for Ozma.
And based on how well-liked Immigration Song is with Ozma fans, it's really quite appauling that he hasn't gotten another chance.
maybe he hasn't wanted to?
Quote from: Not Jason on September 18, 2006, 10:47:03 PM
Quote from: Rome on September 18, 2006, 12:34:20 AM
Quote from: Not Jason on September 17, 2006, 01:24:05 AM
based on Immigration Song, I would love to see Jose write more material for Ozma.
And based on how well-liked Immigration Song is with Ozma fans, it's really quite appauling that he hasn't gotten another chance.
maybe he hasn't wanted to?
Either that, or he kinda just let's Ryen/Dan do their thing. He reminds me of George Harrison, yknow..it's hard to just walk up to the main driving force of a band, and be like "Yeah, I got some stuff, wanna listen?" George ended up having a helluva lot of good material.
He's my favorite Beatle.
Quote from: CantelopeSkiz on September 19, 2006, 02:31:10 PM
He's my favorite Beatle.
Your
mom's my favorite Beatle.
I'm a McCartney fan, myself.
I dunno, any of you guys familiar with Ringo's solo work?
"no no no, I don't *snnnfff* no more, I'm tired of waking up on the floor"
fuckin' genius, bro.
Quote from: Not Jason on September 19, 2006, 09:35:19 PM
I dunno, any of you guys familiar with Ringo's solo work?
"no no no, I don't *snnnfff* no more, I'm tired of waking up on the floor"
fuckin' genius, bro.
His only solo song I've ever heard is "Photograph" and I love that song.
I've only heard it don't come easy, and it's pretty awesome.
dont pass me by is good. although its a beatles song. and also on let it be naked's "fly on the wall" "carolina" sounds like it would have been an awesome song, but i never heard a real version, unless he recorded it later and ive just never heard it
To reply on the whole argument of who makes ozma... Come on guys ozma makes ozma. It wouldn't be ozma without all of them together expressing their own styles together as one.
...and everyone knows that Kenn Shane MAKES ozma.
:)
Quote from: NewYorkerNick on September 20, 2006, 09:46:51 PM
To reply on the whole argument of who makes ozma... Come on guys ozma makes ozma. It wouldn't be ozma without all of them together expressing their own styles together as one.
...and everyone knows that Kenn Shane MAKES ozma.
:)
kenn shane...dude, listen to the demos and live shows, that man barely make a perfect drum roll at times
I was joking since the drumming in Ozma is pretty basic but I'm sure he feels much better that you said that... dude.
Quote from: butterfly on September 20, 2006, 11:00:05 PM
Quote from: NewYorkerNick on September 20, 2006, 09:46:51 PM
To reply on the whole argument of who makes ozma... Come on guys ozma makes ozma. It wouldn't be ozma without all of them together expressing their own styles together as one.
...and everyone knows that Kenn Shane MAKES ozma.
:)
kenn shane...dude, listen to the demos and live shows, that man barely make a perfect drum roll at times
I think he drives the music much more than pat though.. I haven't listened for a while, but I think Kenn has more of a driving style, Pat kinda drags most the time.
kenn does the backups on "i wonder".
thats freakin cool.
no its not because everyone knows RYEN AND JOSE do daniels backup vocals, not the drummer
Quote from: I like ozma. on September 22, 2006, 11:26:04 AM
no its not because everyone knows RYEN AND JOSE do daniels backup vocals, not the drummer
was that a joke? hipsun is a friend of kenn's. i'm pretty sure he knows.
it is cool because kenn brings more than just drumming (which pat brought to ozma)
those background vocals are kenn.
Quote from: Marm on September 22, 2006, 12:02:44 PM
Quote from: I like ozma. on September 22, 2006, 11:26:04 AM
no its not because everyone knows RYEN AND JOSE do daniels backup vocals, not the drummer
was that a joke?
I wouldn't bet on it.
Quote from: The Other Mike on September 22, 2006, 03:08:15 PM
Quote from: Marm on September 22, 2006, 12:02:44 PM
Quote from: I like ozma. on September 22, 2006, 11:26:04 AM
no its not because everyone knows RYEN AND JOSE do daniels backup vocals, not the drummer
was that a joke?
I wouldn't bet on it.
I guess you still dont get I Like Ozma's humor yet. :(
Quote from: =Oatmeal= on September 22, 2006, 04:26:09 PM
Quote from: The Other Mike on September 22, 2006, 03:08:15 PM
Quote from: Marm on September 22, 2006, 12:02:44 PM
Quote from: I like ozma. on September 22, 2006, 11:26:04 AM
no its not because everyone knows RYEN AND JOSE do daniels backup vocals, not the drummer
was that a joke?
I wouldn't bet on it.
I guess you still dont get I Like Ozma's humor yet. :(
Oh sure, I get that it was an
attempt at a joke, but i don't think it quite qualifies.
Quote from: The Other Mike on September 22, 2006, 04:42:28 PM
Quote from: =Oatmeal= on September 22, 2006, 04:26:09 PM
Quote from: The Other Mike on September 22, 2006, 03:08:15 PM
Quote from: Marm on September 22, 2006, 12:02:44 PM
Quote from: I like ozma. on September 22, 2006, 11:26:04 AM
no its not because everyone knows RYEN AND JOSE do daniels backup vocals, not the drummer
was that a joke?
I wouldn't bet on it.
I guess you still dont get I Like Ozma's humor yet. :(
Oh sure, I get that it was an attempt at a joke, but i don't think it quite qualifies.
my no its not was directed at the fact that it is "freakin cool"
Quote from: Marm on September 22, 2006, 12:02:44 PM
Quote from: I like ozma. on September 22, 2006, 11:26:04 AM
no its not because everyone knows RYEN AND JOSE do daniels backup vocals, not the drummer
was that a joke? hipsun is a friend of kenn's. i'm pretty sure he knows.
Ok, I was wrong. I found out what "i like ozma's" opinion was:
He did think that Ken sang backup in the song. He thought it would be cooler if the original backup singers for Daniels ozma songs, Ryen and Jose to, were sing back up rather than Ken.
all i was saying was how it was cool that kenn brought another dynamic to the band, rather then just drums.
Quote from: =Oatmeal= on September 22, 2006, 07:11:43 PM
Quote from: Marm on September 22, 2006, 12:02:44 PM
Quote from: I like ozma. on September 22, 2006, 11:26:04 AM
no its not because everyone knows RYEN AND JOSE do daniels backup vocals, not the drummer
was that a joke?Ã, hipsun is a friend of kenn's.Ã, i'm pretty sure he knows.
Ok, I was wrong. I found out what "i like ozma's" opinion was:
He did think that Ken sang backup in the song. He thought it would be cooler if the original backup singers for Daniels ozma songs, Ryen and Jose to, were sing back up rather than Ken.
which is what I gathered to begin with, and I still think it's a bit fucked. What exactly is your reasoning, I Like Ozma, for hating anything Ozma does that is not in strict alignment with what Ozma did before the break up? Your flimsy arguments about song quality at least make some degree of sense (even if I think you're completely off-base), but not wanting Ken to sing for the sole reason that he never sang on classic ozma songs (for obvious reasons) is a bit lame as shit, in my opinion.
Hey, I dont think he hates Ken singing back up. I think he just brought up the Jose and Ryen doing back ups is cooler becuase that is what he is used to to. I still dont think he minds Kens back up singing, knowing him, I think he just sated that thier back up singing for argumeants sake.
Quote from: =Oatmeal= on September 23, 2006, 11:42:23 AM
Hey, I dont think he hates Ken singing back up. I think he just brought up the Jose and Ryen doing back ups is cooler becuase that is what he is used to to. I still dont think he minds Kens back up singing, knowing him, I think he just sated that thier back up singing for argumeants sake.
you would think someone who argues for arguments' sake would be better at it.
i dont have any problem with kenn singing BACK UP but when he starts singing lead, then i will have a problem
would you really? that's kind of lame. what if he writes some fantastic songs? i hope he does just to spite you.
i hope he does too.
Quote from: I like ozma. on September 23, 2006, 12:50:48 PM
i dont have any problem with kenn singing BACK UP but when he starts singing lead, then i will have a problem
Remember when Star sang lead on that cover of "Superstar"? Ã, Man, that must have pissed you off a ton, having a non-original member of the band singing lead and having the nerve to bill it as "Ozma". Ã, I still think you're being lame as shit.
yeah i had to go into a mental hospital when that happened. good times
i didnt know kenn sang. which song?
...but who does lead, i don't see a problem with that, its more of the music that im concern with
Quote from: butterfly on September 13, 2006, 01:53:37 AM
im not sure if i do share the same opinion with anyone, but the way i see it,
daniel = ozma just like how we see rivers = weezer.
i mean, the moment i hear daniel sang straight flush, i tell myself this is an ozma song, but when i hear ryen in barriers...i don't have that same effect in me.
but, that's just my opinion
I really dont think dan equals ozma. However, I think If I had to make the choice of who would write the songs for ozma from now on,
jugging judging on their new songs, I would really pick Dan.
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Quote from: butterfly on September 13, 2006, 01:53:37 AM
im not sure if i do share the same opinion with anyone, but the way i see it,
daniel = ozma just like how we see rivers = weezer.
i mean, the moment i hear daniel sang straight flush, i tell myself this is an ozma song, but when i hear ryen in barriers...i don't have that same effect in me.
but, that's just my opinion
I really dont think dan equals ozma. However, I think If I had to make the choice of who would write the songs for ozma from now on, jugging on their new songs, I would really pick Dan.
well if dan plays the jug, who's gonna play the gut-bucket?
Quote from: The Other Mike on October 09, 2006, 08:07:18 AM
Quote from: =Oatmeal= on October 08, 2006, 10:38:34 PM
Quote from: butterfly on September 13, 2006, 01:53:37 AM
im not sure if i do share the same opinion with anyone, but the way i see it,
daniel = ozma just like how we see rivers = weezer.
i mean, the moment i hear daniel sang straight flush, i tell myself this is an ozma song, but when i hear ryen in barriers...i don't have that same effect in me.
but, that's just my opinion
I really dont think dan equals ozma. However, I think If I had to make the choice of who would write the songs for ozma from now on, jugging on their new songs, I would really pick Dan.
well if dan plays the jug, who's gonna play the gut-bucket?
Either Jose or Ryen I'm guessing. Whichever one isn't playing the banjo.
star will play washboard
I say we petition Ozma to make these changes.
signed
i second the motion to START the commotion
Wait!......what about Ken?
Quote from: =Oatmeal= on October 11, 2006, 12:26:16 PM
Wait!......what about Ken?
I was just assuming he'd be taking lead vocals.
im not trying to revive this thread or anything, but in line with the topic
daniel has two songs credited to only him on stbl
come home andrea, and and curve in the old 1-9 (im not sure if light years will burn is) but however, as good of songs those are, IMO they are only a little better than ryens on the album which are
your name, and bad dogs.
however, the only song on the album (that i see anyways {im not sure about light years will burn and wake up}) credited to dan/ryen/and jose is "restart" and IMO it is the best song on the album, so i see every member just as equal as the next because none of them can write a GREAT ozma song on their own
Good point, too bad their gonna criticize you now.
Quote from: I like ozma. on December 09, 2006, 02:07:34 PM
come home andrea, and and curve in the old 1-9 (im not sure if light years will burn is) but however, as good of songs those are, IMO they are only a little better than ryens on the album which are
your name, and bad dogs.
however, the only song on the album (that i see anyways {im not sure about light years will burn and wake up}) credited to dan/ryen/and jose is "restart" and IMO it is the best song on the album, so i see every member just as equal as the next because none of them can write a GREAT ozma song on their own
I've never been a fan of Curve in the Old 1-9, personally because I do not understand it, which means I can not relate to it. I do infact enjoy Ryen's writing on that album. And yes Restart is possibly the best, yet another fine example of what can happen when Dan/Ryen/Jose are together. I wouldn't say Ryen/Dan/Jose individually "suck" on their own, just the best songs are the cowritten ones because each member adds their distinct input to it. They are "rounded" off.
He didnââ,¬â,,¢t say they suck individually, he just means that their best songs are done by a team effort. He still thinks their individual songs are good, I think.
Yeah I guess I should of phrased that better.
on a mostly unrelated note:
weezer sucks (has been sucking) without matt sharp :)
Quote from: Mikerton on December 09, 2006, 10:47:27 PM
on a mostly unrelated note:
weezer sucks (has been sucking) without matt sharp :)
This post is a joke, right?
why are you asking yourself if your own post is a joke?
just glad that for once it wasnt me that brought up weezer. haha
p.s. if daniel expanded on the stuff he did with contrabrand, i think it would be Samuel.
Quote from: Mikerton on December 10, 2006, 07:19:36 PM
p.s. if daniel expanded on the stuff he did with contrabrand, i think it would be EVEN MORE Samuel.
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