New Ozma Songs on Myspace

[I like ozma]

Honestly, if Rock and Roll Part Three came out tomorrow and I'd never heard any of the songs before, I doubt I'd buy it.Ã,  Maybe I would, but I have a hard time seeing it have the same sort of impact on me now as it did back then.Ã,  I'm not just talking lyrically either.Ã,  I think musicially they've moved far enough forward now that doing the four on the floor pop stuff cannot possibly be satisfying for them, nor would I be too excited to hear it.

Having said that, when I listen to these songs, I don't hear the complete departure some of you people do.Ã,  I wonder if that is in part because a lot of people have been sitting on an old catelog of music so long that they've forgotten things like how drastic a change spending time felt like from their previous efforts.Ã,  Possibly some of the people in this argument got into Ozma with that record, and if so, it offsets your perception of the band a little bit.Ã,  To me, these sound no less Ozma than tracks like "Utsiasga;ldgh Shibuya", "Your Name" and "Wake Up" did on the first few listens.Ã,  If your willing to accept those things as legit Ozma, than why not the new stuff, which seems to have it's feet planted firmly in the traditions of Ozma's sound.Ã,  It's still very much rock based, it's still very much keyboard driven ("Darkness Into Light" even has some of that signiture doubled guitar/keys action that so defines Ozma's early work).Ã,  I think the only reason that people don't want to label this "Ozma" is because it was made 3 years too late for them to have lumped it with the rest of the catelog.

Perhaps there are valid reasons for not liking these songs, but how many of those same reasons might also be applicable to the classic Ozma catelog?Ã,  I think a lot of people have been glorifying the old body of work in excess here, and contrasting the new stuff against standards based on an over-romanticized memory of the past material.

edit:Ã,  Post 3000

first off i would like to say: its "catalog"

second: you are on to something here i think, i agree with most of your points that it still has some of ozmas sound. i think these songs just kinda hit a lot of people by surprise because they were expecting a song like "rocks" and i know they are a different band now then they were, but people have a tendency to stick with what made them first fall in love with something, rather than accept the changes.


third: congratulations on your 3000th post


and fourth: if -150 karma is respected, then im the second most respected person on this board

the other mike has the balls to rather strongly voice his opinion without crying about the fact that some or many people disagree with him. pretty respect-worthy, i'd say.

and really, who fucking cares? complaining about/bringing up 'karma' just shows that you're a pussy who actually does care about what other people think about you

you know what you can shut your face. and you are right the other mike does voice HIS OWN opinions, unlike someone *cough*you *cough* "wow i like ozma you are so stupid, am i right mike? what do you think jason? can i be cool now?"


here is an example: "anywayz, i wish ozma would just write good ozma songs instead of writing good songsÃ, 

their not ozma lol"- ^__^

Ã,  "if you can admit that they're good songs, why not give ozma the credit they're due for writing good new (OZMA) songs? they're the ones who wrote them in the first place."- ^__^

wow, we really know where you stand mr. kerry

[The Other Mike]

no.

[jvstin]

Honestly, if Rock and Roll Part Three came out tomorrow and I'd never heard any of the songs before, I doubt I'd buy it.Ã,  Maybe I would, but I have a hard time seeing it have the same sort of impact on me now as it did back then.Ã,  I'm not just talking lyrically either.Ã,  I think musicially they've moved far enough forward now that doing the four on the floor pop stuff cannot possibly be satisfying for them, nor would I be too excited to hear it.

Having said that, when I listen to these songs, I don't hear the complete departure some of you people do.Ã,  I wonder if that is in part because a lot of people have been sitting on an old catelog of music so long that they've forgotten things like how drastic a change spending time felt like from their previous efforts.Ã,  Possibly some of the people in this argument got into Ozma with that record, and if so, it offsets your perception of the band a little bit.Ã,  To me, these sound no less Ozma than tracks like "Utsiasga;ldgh Shibuya", "Your Name" and "Wake Up" did on the first few listens.Ã,  If your willing to accept those things as legit Ozma, than why not the new stuff, which seems to have it's feet planted firmly in the traditions of Ozma's sound.Ã,  It's still very much rock based, it's still very much keyboard driven ("Darkness Into Light" even has some of that signiture doubled guitar/keys action that so defines Ozma's early work).Ã,  I think the only reason that people don't want to label this "Ozma" is because it was made 3 years too late for them to have lumped it with the rest of the catelog.

Perhaps there are valid reasons for not liking these songs, but how many of those same reasons might also be applicable to the classic Ozma catelog?Ã,  I think a lot of people have been glorifying the old body of work in excess here, and contrasting the new stuff against standards based on an over-romanticized memory of the past material.

edit:Ã,  Post 3000

first off i would like to say: its "catalog"

second: you are on to something here i think, i agree with most of your points that it still has some of ozmas sound. i think these songs just kinda hit a lot of people by surprise because they were expecting a song like "rocks" and i know they are a different band now then they were, but people have a tendency to stick with what made them first fall in love with something, rather than accept the changes.


third: congratulations on your 3000th post


and fourth: if -150 karma is respected, then im the second most respected person on this board

the other mike has the balls to rather strongly voice his opinion without crying about the fact that some or many people disagree with him. pretty respect-worthy, i'd say.

and really, who fucking cares? complaining about/bringing up 'karma' just shows that you're a pussy who actually does care about what other people think about you

you know what you can shut your face. and you are right the other mike does voice HIS OWN opinions, unlike someone *cough*you *cough* "wow i like ozma you are so stupid, am i right mike? what do you think jason? can i be cool now?"


here is an example: "anywayz, i wish ozma would just write good ozma songs instead of writing good songsÃ, 

their not ozma lol"- ^__^
Ã,  "if you can admit that they're good songs, why not give ozma the credit they're due for writing good new (OZMA) songs? they're the ones who wrote them in the first place."- ^__^

wow, we really know where you stand mr. kerry

man, i feel like i'm arguing with a retard

...waitaminute!

your sarcasm detector needs some fixing.

but, you know, you telling me to shut my face has really hurt my feelings and has shown me the error of my ways. i really do want to suck jason's dick. i mean, who doesn't... right? there's no possible way that my opinions could be my own if people agree with them

if i am correct, you're the one saying that you like the songs. then you pull a 180 and say that ryen and dan are being lame by trying to sound 'mature'Ã,  Ã, 
...and "acoustic fusion"?Ã,  you're fucking retarded.

seriously, if i ever see that face on your avatar, i will fucking cut your lips off. dipshit.

[falyn]

the beginning of 'into the light' sounds reminiscent of a crappy emo song, imho.

[jvstin]

the beginning of 'into the light' sounds reminiscent of a crappy emo song, imho.

really? it reminds me of van halen for some reason.

[tom]

Mike...do you like Fight The Darkness? Because I love it. Shit. Cheap Trick?...

[machatte]

the beginning of 'into the light' sounds reminiscent of a crappy emo song, imho.

the synth sound is sort of weak, but I love the way the drums start, kenn wrote a great part. 

[FireAarro]

I like this song musically, but I think Ryen's singing and lyrics (just the chorus actually... the verses i don't really mind, but the chorus shits me) kinda annoy me now... shit. Yeah, his recent songs are more Yes Deary.

[brad]

I like this song musically, but I think Ryen's singing and lyrics (just the chorus actually... the verses i don't really mind, but the chorus shits me) kinda annoy me now... shit. Yeah, his recent songs are more Yes Deary.

i agree.  why does he keep writing songs with the same words in it?  now there's two darknesses and two barriers......his lyrics have been pretty boring lately too.

[I like ozma]

yeah one thing i love about ozma is the way they kind of tell stories, but these songs are kind of just words put together to mean nothing

[FireAarro]

The new lyrics are more open to interpretation, and have deeper meanings really. Just because they're not singing plainly about teenage love anymore doesn't mean the songs mean nothing.

[tis not mike other]

I think that many of you peeps are failing to remember that these songs are just drafts of a final product, there is much more to be made of these songs, but nevertheless, these are pretty good. Yes Dear clearly has had a huge influence on Ryen and Dan has been heavily influenced by his other works as well. I'd really like to hear a song co-written by the two, and having Jose help would be better as well.

I agree with your opnion. Good post.

[gloom-glaam]

Honestly, if Rock and Roll Part Three came out tomorrow and I'd never heard any of the songs before, I doubt I'd buy it.Ã,  Maybe I would, but I have a hard time seeing it have the same sort of impact on me now as it did back then.Ã,  I'm not just talking lyrically either.Ã,  I think musicially they've moved far enough forward now that doing the four on the floor pop stuff cannot possibly be satisfying for them, nor would I be too excited to hear it.

Having said that, when I listen to these songs, I don't hear the complete departure some of you people do.Ã,  I wonder if that is in part because a lot of people have been sitting on an old catelog of music so long that they've forgotten things like how drastic a change spending time felt like from their previous efforts.Ã,  Possibly some of the people in this argument got into Ozma with that record, and if so, it offsets your perception of the band a little bit.Ã,  To me, these sound no less Ozma than tracks like "Utsiasga;ldgh Shibuya", "Your Name" and "Wake Up" did on the first few listens.Ã,  If your willing to accept those things as legit Ozma, than why not the new stuff, which seems to have it's feet planted firmly in the traditions of Ozma's sound.Ã,  It's still very much rock based, it's still very much keyboard driven ("Darkness Into Light" even has some of that signiture doubled guitar/keys action that so defines Ozma's early work).Ã,  I think the only reason that people don't want to label this "Ozma" is because it was made 3 years too late for them to have lumped it with the rest of the catelog.

Perhaps there are valid reasons for not liking these songs, but how many of those same reasons might also be applicable to the classic Ozma catelog?Ã,  I think a lot of people have been glorifying the old body of work in excess here, and contrasting the new stuff against standards based on an over-romanticized memory of the past material.

edit:Ã,  Post 3000

first off i would like to say: its "catalog"

second: you are on to something here i think, i agree with most of your points that it still has some of ozmas sound. i think these songs just kinda hit a lot of people by surprise because they were expecting a song like "rocks" and i know they are a different band now then they were, but people have a tendency to stick with what made them first fall in love with something, rather than accept the changes.


third: congratulations on your 3000th post


and fourth: if -150 karma is respected, then im the second most respected person on this board

the other mike has the balls to rather strongly voice his opinion without crying about the fact that some or many people disagree with him. pretty respect-worthy, i'd say.

and really, who fucking cares? complaining about/bringing up 'karma' just shows that you're a pussy who actually does care about what other people think about you

you know what you can shut your face. and you are right the other mike does voice HIS OWN opinions, unlike someone *cough*you *cough* "wow i like ozma you are so stupid, am i right mike? what do you think jason? can i be cool now?"


here is an example: "anywayz, i wish ozma would just write good ozma songs instead of writing good songsÃ, 

their not ozma lol"- ^__^

Ã,  "if you can admit that they're good songs, why not give ozma the credit they're due for writing good new (OZMA) songs? they're the ones who wrote them in the first place."- ^__^

wow, we really know where you stand mr. kerry

non douchebag edit:
Be quiet, think of an original insult, bad Kerry reference and stop being mad about there not being a new RaRPT

[Not Jason]

Meh, I don't care who says what about me and mike.  Our love will endure your criticisms.  Nobody should waste their time arguing about that.  I think it's a bit funny how quickly this thread erodes into playgroundisms like "shut your face".  I'm all for heated debate, but man, what are we, 6 years old?  CantelopeSkiz, I appreciate what I assume is support, but there's no need to go about it like that.

I'm all for the shit talk, but let's talk like adults and let's keep it vaguely related to Ozma here.

[gloom-glaam]

Yeah you're right, I was fairly miserable that night being sore all over, migrane and finding out my favorite show ever was cancelled. I Like Ozma, I'm sorry I very over reacted that time and I take back the insults.

[I like ozma]

eh, im used to it. i thought we were cool now though, but i guess not...

[WhoYouCallinWeez]

and finding out my favorite show ever was cancelled.

what show??

[gloom-glaam]

Why, The Morgan Waters Show, of course.

[Rome]

I'm all for the shit talk, but let's talk like adults and let's keep it vaguely related to Ozma here.

Dear Jason,
You are a tool. I don't mean a tool like The Other Mike, I mean a tool like a Hammer. You just sit there and band any kind of rod with a head on the end. You sit there and slam that sucker until the shaft dissappears and all you can see is the glans. Ozma.

[Fantastic Max]

I like this song musically, but I think Ryen's singing and lyrics (just the chorus actually... the verses i don't really mind, but the chorus shits me) kinda annoy me now... shit. Yeah, his recent songs are more Yes Deary.

i agree.Ã,  why does he keep writing songs with the same words in it?Ã,  now there's two darknesses and two barriers......his lyrics have been pretty boring lately too.

Only quoting you because I wanted to thank the hell out of you for indirectly getting me into Tally Hall.
Last week when you mentioned them, I thought "Might as well, check em out" or whatever, yknow..not expecting much.

Little did I know, I'd come across a band that'd instantly jump into my top 5 favorite bands, maybe even ever.

Rarely is there a band I hear and instantly want the album. It's only been like 5 or 6 days, and I have the album, know almost all of the words to the songs, have made copies for people, and have seen every single video they have, whether it be via YouTube or their website.

So yeah. Thank you.
I love you.Ã,  haha.

[brad]

I like this song musically, but I think Ryen's singing and lyrics (just the chorus actually... the verses i don't really mind, but the chorus shits me) kinda annoy me now... shit. Yeah, his recent songs are more Yes Deary.

i agree.Ã,  why does he keep writing songs with the same words in it?Ã,  now there's two darknesses and two barriers......his lyrics have been pretty boring lately too.

Only quoting you because I wanted to thank the hell out of you for indirectly getting me into Tally Hall.
Last week when you mentioned them, I thought "Might as well, check em out" or whatever, yknow..not expecting much.

Little did I know, I'd come across a band that'd instantly jump into my top 5 favorite bands, maybe even ever.

Rarely is there a band I hear and instantly want the album. It's only been like 5 or 6 days, and I have the album, know almost all of the words to the songs, have made copies for people, and have seen every single video they have, whether it be via YouTube or their website.

So yeah. Thank you.
I love you.Ã,  haha.

lol i love you too.  just saw them saturday again where they premiered their video for "good day" which should come online sometime this week.  get ready to have your mind blown.

[k24]

i just told ozma how much i thought the new stuff kicks ass. and i mean everyword of it. this stuff is great!

[tis not mike other]

I like this song musically, but I think Ryen's singing and lyrics (just the chorus actually... the verses i don't really mind, but the chorus shits me) kinda annoy me now... shit. Yeah, his recent songs are more Yes Deary.

i agree.  why does he keep writing songs with the same words in it?  now there's two darknesses and two barriers......his lyrics have been pretty boring lately too.

Only quoting you because I wanted to thank the hell out of you for indirectly getting me into Tally Hall.
Last week when you mentioned them, I thought "Might as well, check em out" or whatever, yknow..not expecting much.

Little did I know, I'd come across a band that'd instantly jump into my top 5 favorite bands, maybe even ever.

Rarely is there a band I hear and instantly want the album. It's only been like 5 or 6 days, and I have the album, know almost all of the words to the songs, have made copies for people, and have seen every single video they have, whether it be via YouTube or their website.

So yeah. Thank you.
I love you.  haha.

lol i love you too.  just saw them saturday again where they premiered their video for "good day" which should come online sometime this week.  get ready to have your mind blown.

Thanks Brad and Caleb! This my be one of my fav bands now too, becuase of you guys. They rock hard.

[gloom-glaam]

I like this song musically, but I think Ryen's singing and lyrics (just the chorus actually... the verses i don't really mind, but the chorus shits me) kinda annoy me now... shit. Yeah, his recent songs are more Yes Deary.

i agree.Ã,  why does he keep writing songs with the same words in it?Ã,  now there's two darknesses and two barriers......his lyrics have been pretty boring lately too.

Only quoting you because I wanted to thank the hell out of you for indirectly getting me into Tally Hall.
Last week when you mentioned them, I thought "Might as well, check em out" or whatever, yknow..not expecting much.

Little did I know, I'd come across a band that'd instantly jump into my top 5 favorite bands, maybe even ever.

Rarely is there a band I hear and instantly want the album. It's only been like 5 or 6 days, and I have the album, know almost all of the words to the songs, have made copies for people, and have seen every single video they have, whether it be via YouTube or their website.

So yeah. Thank you.
I love you.Ã,  haha.

lol i love you too.Ã,  just saw them saturday again where they premiered their video for "good day" which should come online sometime this week.Ã,  get ready to have your mind blown.

Thanks Brad! This my be one of my fav bands now too, becuase of you guys. They rock hard.

[icecreamman]

Not to spam up this thread, but they aren't that bad.  The coolest thing is they are based in Ann Arbor, Michigan.  If I get into U of M I might get to see them live!!!

[brad]

i go to u of m -- so i see them all the time!

[Fantastic Max]

I like this song musically, but I think Ryen's singing and lyrics (just the chorus actually... the verses i don't really mind, but the chorus shits me) kinda annoy me now... shit. Yeah, his recent songs are more Yes Deary.

i agree.Ã,  why does he keep writing songs with the same words in it?Ã,  now there's two darknesses and two barriers......his lyrics have been pretty boring lately too.

Only quoting you because I wanted to thank the hell out of you for indirectly getting me into Tally Hall.
Last week when you mentioned them, I thought "Might as well, check em out" or whatever, yknow..not expecting much.

Little did I know, I'd come across a band that'd instantly jump into my top 5 favorite bands, maybe even ever.

Rarely is there a band I hear and instantly want the album. It's only been like 5 or 6 days, and I have the album, know almost all of the words to the songs, have made copies for people, and have seen every single video they have, whether it be via YouTube or their website.

So yeah. Thank you.
I love you.Ã,  haha.

lol i love you too.Ã,  just saw them saturday again where they premiered their video for "good day" which should come online sometime this week.Ã,  get ready to have your mind blown.

Thanks Brad! This my be one of my fav bands now too, becuase of you guys. They rock hard.

Haha I love how you took my name out of that quote, yet forgot to remove the "you guys" deeming your efforts useless

[Fantastic Max]

i go to u of m -- so i see them all the time!

I do now feel the shaft that Jason and others feel, about ozma always playing CA shows, where I live. Yet Tally Hall's halfway across the country.
*SIIIIGH*

[Not Jason]

I'm all for the shit talk, but let's talk like adults and let's keep it vaguely related to Ozma here.

Dear Jason,
You are a tool. I don't mean a tool like The Other Mike, I mean a tool like a Hammer. You just sit there and band any kind of rod with a head on the end. You sit there and slam that sucker until the shaft dissappears and all you can see is the glans. Ozma.

Well, I guess I've been owned.

[gloom-glaam]

I like this song musically, but I think Ryen's singing and lyrics (just the chorus actually... the verses i don't really mind, but the chorus shits me) kinda annoy me now... shit. Yeah, his recent songs are more Yes Deary.

i agree.Ã,  why does he keep writing songs with the same words in it?Ã,  now there's two darknesses and two barriers......his lyrics have been pretty boring lately too.

Only quoting you because I wanted to thank the hell out of you for indirectly getting me into Tally Hall.
Last week when you mentioned them, I thought "Might as well, check em out" or whatever, yknow..not expecting much.

Little did I know, I'd come across a band that'd instantly jump into my top 5 favorite bands, maybe even ever.

Rarely is there a band I hear and instantly want the album. It's only been like 5 or 6 days, and I have the album, know almost all of the words to the songs, have made copies for people, and have seen every single video they have, whether it be via YouTube or their website.

So yeah. Thank you.
I love you.Ã,  haha.

lol i love you too.Ã,  just saw them saturday again where they premiered their video for "good day" which should come online sometime this week.Ã,  get ready to have your mind blown.

Thanks Brad! This my be one of my fav bands now too, becuase of you guys. They rock hard.

Haha I love how you took my name out of that quote, yet forgot to remove the "you guys" deeming your efforts useless

Brad deserves to count as two people for showing us that band, and the reason I took your name out is because I checked them out because of him, when you joined the love of Tally Hall it was already useless to me.